Building a jump bag

[FranklinCountyVFF]

I've got a jump bag for when i'm at home but I don't fill like lugging it around when we go camping or what ever. I built me another one and I want opinions

-3 Multi Trauma pads
-5 Abd pads
-20 4x4 Gauze
-10 2x2 Gauze
-5 Roller gauze
-10 Knee bandages
-20 1"x3" bandages
-5 Eye pads
-2 cold compresses
-2 Cravats
-10 Triple antibiotic ointment
-10 Ammonia inhalants
-10 Iodine swabs
- A bunch of different width tape
-Pen light
-Kelly forceps
-Stethoscope/BP cuff
- A bunch of surgeroy sponges to add ontop of gauze
-500 ml irrigation fluid
-theres several more items that I know i'm missing but can't think of them off the top of my head. I plan on adding a sam splint, a glucometer with test strips and some oral glucose. Would like to have a Cervical collar but don't have room for it as this is a pretty small bag. Suggestions are welcome.

[knoxvillefirefighter4life]

in your state are you able to test with a glucometer meter becausse emts in pennsylvannia are not we can give glucose but we cannot test. put some tissuses and small towls in there they come in handy coming from a scout who use to camp a lot. space blacket if room other then that it sounds good ohh yea put some gloves in there.

[Daywalker]

ditch the ammonia inhalants, add more cravats.

If you are going for small and portable, you could reduce the count of your supplies. Cravats and roller gauze are very useful, so Id keep a good number of those.

[FranklinCountyVFF]

Knoxvillefirefighter4Life:
I don't know if it's a state thing in Virginia but I know we are allowed to test with a glucometer in my county per our Medical Director. Got the space blanket in there thats one of the things I forgot to add to my list.

DayWalker:
Don't know why I threw in the amonia inhalants. Guess cause they were there in our old first aid kit. Yeah now that I think back to it my EMT instructor did say that cravats and roller gauze had 1,000,001 uses and still counting.

[hooknladder]

If it's just to keep on hand for incidentals and camping, i would not get into having a glucometer. If you were not dispatched to an incident as an EMT, it is unlikely that general medical direction would cover an "invasive" procedure such as a finger stick. Ditto for "administering" oral glucose. I'd rather see you carry a roll of life savers than oral glucose - the bonus there is that lifesavers don't expire.
You don't have gloves or a mask or an eye shield listed. I'd rather see that than all those trauma dressings and eye pads. Beyond that - i'd probably cut the amount of everything in half and add 2 quick kold ice packs and a face shield for CPR.

[FloridaFireLt.]

Originally Posted by hooknladder

If it's just to keep on hand for incidentals and camping, i would not get into having a glucometer. If you were not dispatched to an incident as an EMT, it is unlikely that general medical direction would cover an "invasive" procedure such as a finger stick. Ditto for "administering" oral glucose. I'd rather see you carry a roll of life savers than oral glucose - the bonus there is that lifesavers don't expire.
You don't have gloves or a mask or an eye shield listed. I'd rather see that than all those trauma dressings and eye pads. Beyond that - i'd probably cut the amount of everything in half and add 2 quick kold ice packs and a face shield for CPR.

I'm not so sure I'd do the "lifesavers", or any kind of solid candy, as a Tx for diabetic symptoms. They can present a choking hazard to someone with an altered level of consciousness which is pretty common in diabetic emergencies. Certainly many people can experience symptoms and still be A&Ox's 3 but if your going to stock something in a first response kit, It's probably best to put a "one size fits all" Tx in it. Oral glucose is a relatively benign Tx and doesn't pose a choking hazard.

[Daywalker]

they have civilian oral glucose at most pharmacies. Get it from there. I'm not sure if the "EMS" oral glucose is one of those supplies that needs a physician's order or blessing to get, but if it is it could pose legal problems if you act as a bystander. If you get it from walgreens/riteaid/etc your just a helpful citizen who knows more than the average joe giving someone glucose you can get at the corner drug store.

[hooknladder]

Originally Posted by FloridaFireLt.

I'm not so sure I'd do the "lifesavers", or any kind of solid candy, as a Tx for diabetic symptoms. They can present a choking hazard to someone with an altered level of consciousness which is pretty common in diabetic emergencies. Certainly many people can experience symptoms and still be A&Ox's 3 but if your going to stock something in a first response kit, It's probably best to put a "one size fits all" Tx in it. Oral glucose is a relatively benign Tx and doesn't pose a choking hazard.

ok - if you want to go with something liquid or gel how about we meet in the middle and say that a tube of cake decorating gel (the small ones) would be a good compromise. That way it's still not an overt medicine and it would be harder to prosecute for icing than oral glucose.

[FloridaFireLt.]

Originally Posted by hooknladder

ok - if you want to go with something liquid or gel how about we meet in the middle and say that a tube of cake decorating gel (the small ones) would be a good compromise. That way it's still not an overt medicine and it would be harder to prosecute for icing than oral glucose.

That's more than a fair compromise. We've even used cake icing a few times with a regular we go to that works in a grocery store.